July 13, 2008

too skinny, Great Dane needs food that helps him gain weight?

I have a great dane that doesnt gain weight

i give him bread,moist dog food,high calorie liquid supplement,gravy etc.

yet he does'nt gain weight.

i know he doesnt have worms since he has all his puppy shots (he is a adult now) and he has had this problem since he was a pup
i give him pedigree but people have been telling me that pedigree dog food is not very good for them and they told me to start buying ol'roy or alpo the cheepest brands
but i wanted different peoples opinions on this
what do i feed him
what illness he might have
and what food makes him gain lots of weight

your answers will be appreciated very much ^_^!!
Thank you all very much 4 the answers but i have a very tight budget since i am only 17,this dane was originally my sisters but she is very irresponsible and now the dog is mine
the vets have told me to feed him fatting human food like bread and noodles.
i cannot afford to de-worm him
i cannnot give the dog away to since i'm very attached to him also we have a drug addicts and prostitutes next door(and the cops and district don't give a DAMN about it) and we need protection but if anybody can tell me what dog food is good and cheap for my dog
i will greatly appreciate it
okay the dog is 3yrs male
and i am not trying to make him overweight you can see his ribs
the parents are HUGE but they are not lanky at all
my friend told me to give him the cheap brand since her dogs are huge and fit and she has tried the expensive bands like purina,nutra brand etc. and she said it made her dogs very thin and i thought maybe the cheap brands might work better

You didn't mention age of the dog or the sex of the dog. Danes mature (body out) differently and it really depends on their line (pedigree -the dogs behind them).
You really shouldn't attempt to fatten up a dog that's under a year of age either.

Keep your dog on a good quality dog food -Ol' Roy and Alpo certainly don't fall into that category.
Put the dog on the food the breeder recommends. Do NOT free feed, this will not help with encouraging the dog to gain weight. And make sure the protein and fat levels are not too high. The recommended protein level is 23% and fat is 12%. A protein level of 25% and fat ration of 15% is considered to rich for growing puppies.

Make sure the dog is getting enough exercise too.

More details about the dog and I'll provide more info if you're interested.

You could supplement with Fat Balls or Satin Balls but this is not a "cheap" route.
Adding macaroni and cheese, pancakes or something similar can help too and it cost less than the Fat Balls or Satin Balls ingredients.
Chances are slim that thyroid is the issue.
Since your dog is over 2 years you might want to consider a performance diet -kibble that has 26% protein (or 1-2% higher) and 15%-17% fat. This type of food is ideal for a dog that burns more calories than it consumes -a very active dog.
Before you pick up a different bag of food for your dog familiarize yourself with the various ingredients and try to pick up the highest quality food that you can afford.

Link to help you better understand the labels provided below.

And don't be convinced that the only good food for your dog is those that others have suggested. If your dog is in good health, active, has a nice coat and he's thriving then he's alright.
Read the last five paragraphs of this link -i think she is right on. http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/dogfoods.html

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April 2, 2008

dobemommy @ 10:13 am

for a great dane, google the greatdanelady, her site is great, covers everything about great danes.
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bob © @ 10:16 am

great danes are lanky dogs by nature. does your vet think he needs to gain weight? pedigree food is crap. anything you can buy in the grocery is crap. high quality foods do not contain any corn, wheat, soy, or by products and all of the meat ingredients are listed first.

add- you cant afford to deworm him? how are you able to afford basic health care or heartworm prevention? most vets will accept payment plans or you could try applying for care credit (http://www.carecredit.com). or perhaps you could contact a great dane rescue.
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yukidomari @ 10:16 am

what! who has told you to buy even lower quality food??? Ol' Roy and Alpo are not very good foods at all and if your pet is having problems gaining weight, those foods are not going to help seeing as how most of it comes out as poop anyway..

You must start to feed a better quality food with better digestible protein. Pedigree is not that good. You should try a higher quality food, orijen, nature's variety, innovo, solid gold are all great brands with top ingredients being MEAT that they can digest and therefore gain weight.

Most other dog foods have grain as the top ingredient (even if meat is listed as the top ingredient, sometimes they mean meat before it's been dehydrated and baked). Grains can be hard for dogs to digest, and for some, impossible, and even, allergic.

Please consider switching foods. Better foods cost more money, but it gives more to your dog and less comes out as waste.

If you cannot afford premium foods (like the ones listed above), at least please try to upgrade to a better supermarket brand like purina proplan.

If you have a limited budget, at least try to add nutrition to her diet from foods that you would regularly eat yourself. NO pasta or grains! Dogs can't even digest that well. Try to add a raw egg to her feed at the very least.

You MUST absolutely try to deworm her. There isn't a way for her to gain weight with worms growing in her. If you cannot afford it, please PLEASE consult your humane society services in your area!
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smasho @ 10:18 am

put raw egg on his food cheap proteen
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Heidi Nicole @ 10:18 am

Pedigree and other grocery brands are not as nutritional as the brands found at a natural pet supply store (also, Petsmart has SOME) good brands. I recommend Canidae all life stages lamb and rice (what my dog's eat) Dont feed your dog human food (at all) Canidae is an ALL natural food w/o fillers or byproducts….it will fill your dog up with the right nutrients and not with fillers and "junk" in other grocery brands. He will eat less but get more nutrition. They also have a wet brand that you can mix in the dry food at first while he gains weight. After he starts gaining weight, I would take him off the wet food or it will get REALLY expensive over the years.
Good Luck!! =)
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Nessa @ 10:19 am

Even if your dog got all his vaccinations a dog can Still get worms at any point in their life.
On that note, Pedigree is not a good dog food and the "cheapest" dog foods are not good for your dog and can cost you more in the end (Kirkland is decent food if your on a very tight budget). A GOOD quality dog food like Orijen, Eagle Pack, Canidae will actually save you money because dogs don't eat as much as the filler brands. And make sure you look for a dog food that is made for large/ giant breeds- the nutrients int he food are different.

On that note take your dog to the vet and have him evaluated and get him dewormed.

ETA- It costs $15 to deworm your dog..that is not alot of money, even for a 17 yrs old.
An inexpensive brand of dog food that is still pretty good is Kirkland Lamb and Rice dry dog food (believe its like $15-20 for a 40lb bag)
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graygermanshepherds @ 10:19 am

GROSS , Never feed Petfood that has been sitting on a Grocery Shelf like that.. Not to mention Corn is not something that a dog can digest.
I suggest giving him Liver , raw , to help him digest his food. All Dog food on a shelf is Cooked , killing live enzymes.
Switch to a Super Premium food , Canadea , Innova , at least go to Costco/ Sams Club get some Nutra Nuggets for $17 a bag . I will include some links where you can see what dog food is made of , and why you need to feed better foods /supplements.
If you just think you cant afford it , just think about it this way .. Your body needs nutrition. If you dont have Vita C you will get Scurvey .. Your dog is the same , If you do not feed him well he will get Cancer , Liver Malfunction, Pancritis, Diarreah , Hot spots, have beahavior problems , gas ect .. Your vet bill will be higher if you feed bad dog food. I dont care what AAFCO says , They only test for 1 month a food , and the only requirement is that a dog not loose or gain weight !! Gross , who knows what health problems are caused by dog food.
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http://www.healthypetnet.com/whisper http://www.nuvet.com

sylvia @ 10:20 am

do not feed your dane cheap food. the thing most people dont realize is that dogs dont eat until they are full, they eat until they get the nutrition they need for the day. so if you feed your dog food that is full of fillers, he is going to eat more of the food and in turn, poop more as well. please get him off the cheap food and start feeding him either science diet or nutro max. these foods are more expensive, however he will eat less of it, therefore saving you money in the long run. I have a dane as well, and they do eat alot (up to 20lbs a week) you can try puppy food because it has a higher fat content….also add glucosamine to his diet. make sure the food is made specifically for large/giant dog breeds.
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Marikaycin @ 10:20 am

i think olroy and alpo are the worst foods you can give them and most vets will agree but his shots dont really have anything to do with worms and he needs shots every year for the rest of his life you should have him on preventives for worms advantage multi is a heartworm prevenative that also prevents fleas, hookworms,roundworms,and whipworms and is very safe but you can only get it from a vet and make sure to get him tested for heartworms first but also get a test to make sure he dont have worms but if he doesnt you talk with your vet about his weight and he can refer you better but make sure you dont let him get over wieght becasue they get arthritis really bad as it is and being overwieght will make it worse fyi milkbones bone biscuuits each have 110 calories which is very high good luck
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dixiedarlin7297 @ 10:20 am

Worms have nothing to do with shots. Dewormers are required to get rid of them.

Try feeding him puppy food. It's meant to provide enough nutrients for growing puppies, but can also help dogs gain weight.
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ms_mac2006 @ 10:21 am

My grand pup is a 3 yr. old blue great Dane. She is very, very skinny. She gets fed twice a day, 3-4 cups of dry food plus a pouch of pedigree/gravy stuff. She gets plenty of exercise and sees the vet often. I think they are supposed to be calorie burning machines by nature. I feel like she needs to gain weight too, but everyone says they are just like that.
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good2balive @ 10:22 am

Having all his puppy shots doesn't mean he doesn't have worms. The vet should have tested his stool once at least, but preferably twice in his first 6 months to rule out any kind of parasites. It's common even for purebred puppies to have some kind of worms. If you live in rural areas, on a farm, or walk your dog in places frequented by many dogs, you should have him tested for worms every year at his annual check-up.

As for food, Eukanuba and Hills both make dog food made for dogs who are more active than usual. The label might be worded something like "for working breeds" or similar. If he is under 18 months-2 years old, he should still be eating puppy food-Iam's/Eukanuba and Hills are the two best ones. He also may stay fairly thin until he's closer to two years old; that's when the giant breeds finally finish "filling out" and get their full adult weight-even if he's already his full height now. Canned food may seem like it's higher calorie, but it actually contains alot of water. Use it sparingly but feed him dry food primarily.
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Pam @ 10:23 am

Has your vet done a thyroid panel?

No, Pedigree is not a very good quality food, but the food they recommended are even worse.

Price wise, a quality kibble is not that much more than your basic grain filled foods at WalMart.

Iams- 40 lb bag $34
Canidae All Life Stages - 40 lb bag $38

The extra $4 is well worth it. No fillers, no by-products or mystery "animal digest" (exactly what animals).

The link below will help you find a store near you that carries it. If Canidae isn't the food for you dog, anyone that carries the Canidae will carry several other quality foods such as:
Taste of The Wild
Wellness
Solid Gold
Innova
Orijen
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http://www.canidae.com/company/storelocator.html

Erin Y @ 10:23 am

1st just because your dog had its vaccines dog not mean it doesnt have worms. Take a fecal sample to your vet and get it tested. Its probrolly 10 bucks.
2nd, the amount of excercise your dog gets will have an impact.
3rd-Why would you buy ol'roy and alpo if theyre the cheapest? Think about it for a minute. The higher the quality the less fillers its going to have. You need a LARGE BREED, HIGH CALORIE HIGH PROTIEN diet.
4th-Look at the parents. Are they generally thinner? Danes are "lanky" type dogs to begin with.
5th Go by a BMI.Body Mass Index. Find that online.
Your dog should have a waste and you should be able to feel the ribs not see them. (Take that with a grain of salt because he is a short hair dog), he should have a "tuck up" where his belly is.
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taslol @ 10:29 am

Nutro brand dog food is a high-quality food that has a food called high energy. it has a lot of protein and fats to help them gain weight if they burn it off fat. good luck!!!!
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Valley of the Danes @ 10:40 am

You didn't mention age of the dog or the sex of the dog. Danes mature (body out) differently and it really depends on their line (pedigree -the dogs behind them).
You really shouldn't attempt to fatten up a dog that's under a year of age either.

Keep your dog on a good quality dog food -Ol' Roy and Alpo certainly don't fall into that category.
Put the dog on the food the breeder recommends. Do NOT free feed, this will not help with encouraging the dog to gain weight. And make sure the protein and fat levels are not too high. The recommended protein level is 23% and fat is 12%. A protein level of 25% and fat ration of 15% is considered to rich for growing puppies.

Make sure the dog is getting enough exercise too.

More details about the dog and I'll provide more info if you're interested.

You could supplement with Fat Balls or Satin Balls but this is not a "cheap" route.
Adding macaroni and cheese, pancakes or something similar can help too and it cost less than the Fat Balls or Satin Balls ingredients.
Chances are slim that thyroid is the issue.
Since your dog is over 2 years you might want to consider a performance diet -kibble that has 26% protein (or 1-2% higher) and 15%-17% fat. This type of food is ideal for a dog that burns more calories than it consumes -a very active dog.
Before you pick up a different bag of food for your dog familiarize yourself with the various ingredients and try to pick up the highest quality food that you can afford.

Link to help you better understand the labels provided below.

And don't be convinced that the only good food for your dog is those that others have suggested. If your dog is in good health, active, has a nice coat and he's thriving then he's alright.
Read the last five paragraphs of this link -i think she is right on. http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/dogfoods.html
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http://www.flintriverranch.org/labels.html
http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=labelinfo101
http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/dogfoods.html

lotsadogs @ 12:57 pm

Wow, lots of answers on here already Many people are telling you the right things -

1 - he might have worms - but I personally wouldn't de-worm him until you know he does for sure. Take a fresh pooh sample to your vet in a baggie so they can test it. That way you don't pay for an office visit, just the test. Even if he was de-wormed as a pup, he could have picked it up again. Can your parents or sister help pay for the vet bill (since he was her dog in the first place)?

2 - All the foods you listed are garbage. Figure out the cost of a bag of Pedigree per pound, then look for one of the better foods and figure it out. Then figure out how much he'll eat of each per day, and I think you'll find the better food is the same $, or a little less $ than the crap food. Better food means he's got to eat less to be satisfied, and also smaller piles for you to pick up in the yard.

My 10 month dane eats Chicken Soup/ Pet Lovers Soul Adult, it's about 90 cents per pound if I buy the big bag at the pet store. Canidea is also a good food and it's usually right around the same price. My breeders danes eat about 6 C of Canidea per day. My guy eats about 9C of CHFPLS each day (broken up into 3 meals - don't free feed or he can bloat!)

Don't be afraid to price check different stores in your area. I was paying $38 per bag at the store closest to me, then found another store 4 miles away that sold the same bag for $29. It' makes a huge difference when he goes thru a 30 lb bag every 2 weeks or so.

Is your dane really too skinny? He should be lean, but not have hip bones sticking out, etc. You want to be able to see his last rib easily.

When my golden had cancer, she dropped lots of weight from the meds. The vet had me add 1 C of elbow macaroni to her food each day. It did stop her from losing more weight, but grains really aren't good nutrition for dogs. She was on Pedigree at that time, and if I had had her on a better food, she may not have dropped so much in the first place.

Don't buy crap food. You'll be doing your dog and yourself a disservice. Good luck!
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