July 10, 2008

Does anyone with Great Dane knowledge think this dog is a Great Dane Mix?

I recently adopted my puppy, Oliver from a local humane society. When I adopted him we assumed he was older than what I now believe he is. As a puppy we thought he was mainly Staffordshire Terrier, however, with age he is looking more and more like a Great Dane. A couple of Dane breeders have told me they are positive he has some Dane in him. I originally thought that he had more of a merle color but once I discovered the "harlequin" color of Great Danes I realized that is definitely what he is. He has the temperament of a Dane (loves people, kids, dogs, cats etc etc). I would love some input from anyone!
Here are a couple of pictures of Oliver…

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30073126&l=85751&id=1161840002

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30073127&l=0392d&id=1161840002
Not sure how to actually respond to other peoples answer at the bottom so I will just add details.

As I said before when I first got Oliver I called him a merle puppy but the more I looked at harlequin pups online the more I realized he was actually identical to many puppies that were produced out of harlequin litters, but were not considered to be "proper harlequins". Here is a picture of a dane from a harlequin litter that has the exact same coloring as Oliver..

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/17/21901361_9b0ba638bd.jpg

I do have a wide knowledge of dogs, just not much with large breed dogs. Every merle dog that I have ever seen has a lot of brown markings as well as black, white, and grey which is why I was questioning my original thought of him be merle.

+Well he is not a Harlequin. He looks like a Merlequin Dane, when he gets old you can see if he is full or mix. The size, shape of the head and such will give it away! Look again at the colors as Harlequin has white with block marks with no or little grey, yours was to much grey. He has a Dane nose+

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May 31, 2008

julie d @ 2:13 pm

He is just beautiful! I sure see Dane in him. How old is he? Looks like he is going to be one big boy!
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LBentforLeather @ 2:13 pm

No doubt about it! He is what some people call 'Merlequin'. Harlequin, by definition is a pure white base color with evenly distributed, irregular black patches. Merle the grey-black-white is the by product of harlequin breeding. Homozygous harlequin is lethal.

The added picture: pup in front is a Merle, pup behind is Harlequin.
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Vet Tech @ 2:14 pm

What a cutie! Congratulations on your new bundle!!!

Other then the color of his coat, I do not see overwhelming Dane characteristics to be honest. His feet are cat-like as Dane feet are. I would not be surprised if a little Dane was thrown in because of patterns of his coat, but I truly believe this will be a "wait and see" deal! Perhaps one of his parents was a Dane X? I do not believe one parent was a full dane.

P.S. Harls are white with black marking (like a cow), if anything this boy has coloring of a blue merle.

ADD: The new picture you added is not of a Harl! Trust me! I work for a wonderful veterinarian who breeds Danes! We have a HUGE clientele of Dane breeders!
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Miss Cream @ 2:14 pm

He looks part Harlequin Great Dane.

Edit: oops I stand corrected.. merle I mean
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Nikki L @ 2:15 pm

+Well he is not a Harlequin. He looks like a Merlequin Dane, when he gets old you can see if he is full or mix. The size, shape of the head and such will give it away! Look again at the colors as Harlequin has white with block marks with no or little grey, yours was to much grey. He has a Dane nose+
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Mom of Three @ 2:16 pm

I can see the possibility in those pictures. A profile shot would be most helpful.

Congrats! He's a doll!
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Dreamer @ 2:18 pm

Hard to say, he could be a lot of things… could be some cattle dog or Catahoula leopard dog in him…

Here's some pics for comparison:

Catahoula puppy:
http://www.thriftyfun.com/images/requests/945491_250×175.jpg

Cattle dog puppy:
http://www.adams-ranch-acds.com/images/Max_puppy.jpg

Great dane puppy:
http://image40.webshots.com/40/2/1/58/343420158ZScaRW_ph.jpg

I think you'll have to wait until he's grown up to know for sure… dogs can change so much from puppyhood to adulthood!
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Kristin B © @ 2:25 pm

I see NO Great Dane in that dog, what so ever, and he's definately not Harlequin, he's merle.

Staffordshire Terriers shouldn't be merle, so likely what you have is a poorly bred pit mix? Or a mix of another breed that carries the merle genetic.

Also, pit puppies ALSO love everything, so claiming the temperement that he loves kids, cats, dogs, etc. is just as descriptive as a pit puppy as it is of ANY other breed of dog puppy.
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ginbark @ 2:29 pm

Merle is a common pattern in many breed, Catahoula Leopard Dog, Australian Shepherds and Australian Cattle dogs to name a few. He is not a harl but is a merle color. What kind of a mix he is will be more evident when he gets bigger. "The base color shall be
pure white with
black torn patches
irregularly and
well distributed
over the entire body; a pure white neck is preferred.

The black patches should never be large enough
to give the appearance of a blanket,
nor so small as to give a stippled or dappled effect.
The grey patches make him more of a merle. Any pup with a proper temperament will love anyone or anything. Danes are often shy spooky dogs, my friend has owned and shown many and does Dane Rescue. Even her well bred dog was very spooky as was a well bred Dane pup owned by a friend who gave her to her vet's receptionist. The shelter I worked at had many Danes as bite cases and many were just shy/sharp dogs, really not good in a dog over 100lbs.
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Great Dane Lover @ 6:14 pm

He is a merle..even if he was pure Dane he'ld still be a merle..he possibly has some Dane in him, but I wouldn't say a lot judging from his build. One of his parents could possibly have been 1/2 Dane and 1/2 something else.

****ginbark, a Dane should never be shy, timid, spooky..this is NOT a normal Dane trait…a Dane that shows these traits is either ill bred or hasn't had proper socialization or both.*****
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June 1, 2008

Amber L @ 9:44 am

Hi. I'm a dane owner. Looking at oliver's features (excluding the color) he appears to have dane in him. To what percentage that may be, I'm not sure. But his feet, as others have stated, are a big indicator. If you just have to know what his breed is-you can ask your vet for a DNA test. Prices range from $80 to $125. But even after that I'm sure that won't change your love for Oliver.

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